Big surprise: Ideology more important to wingnuts than functionality

My favorite intellectual sinkhole is complaining about Barack Obama’s choice for secretary of education, Arne Duncan. Duncan has spent the past seven years as the CEO of Chicago Public Schools and has what most view as a mixed track record–nothing abysmal for someone facing the challenges posed by a huge, urbanized school system. But Gribbit spits up this line:

His vision? Widespread poverty and ignorance.

Gribbit does not, of course, cite where Duncan claims to value poverty and ignorance. This is because Gribbit, in no position to judge whether an educational system has failed or not, is making things up as he goes, as per his custom.
But the most telling part of his post is this:

My beef however has less to do with Barry’s choice than the lack of a backlash from those who thought it prudent to criticize President George W. Bush’s selections.

And there it is. Gribbit, like too many wingmen, is more concerned with the nature of the fighting between Dems and Repubs than with how efficiently the nation actually operates or how prosperous it is. These assholes would rather have their pound of flesh and have their pointless squawking validated than see America grow. They are dangerous with a ballot in hand, no less so than Yosemite Sam with one finger in a wall socket and five others shoving a pipeload of crystal meth into the hole under that bright red mustache.
9:29 p.m. EST UPDATE: Not until after I posted this did I see that Gribbit has posted a hagiography of me and of ScienceBlogs in general:

The lefty blogosphere is ripe with turds who couldn’t find a coherent thought with a seeing eye dog and a flashlight. But there seems to be a couple who are obsessed with what I write. I should be flattered I guess, but I’m not. I’m not even annoyed by the turds. I don’t find them entertaining nor do I find them anything resembling intelligent in spite of their efforts to come across as educated. One writes a diary in the misleadingly named Science Blogs collection of hate pages. I call him Kevin the Chimp because he names his hate page Dr. Joan Bushwell’s Chimpanzee Refuge. One of those evolution is settled science types who can’t remember that it is only a theory. And one that is full of holes that they call missing links.
Science Blogs I call misleadingly named because I can’t for the life of me understand where the science is. The main site states that it is “the world’s largest conversation about science” in spite of the lack of evidence supporting the claim. But what you can find is no shortage of “blogs” which cherry pick Conservative sites and attempt to label the writer as a loon by using distortions and conjecture. But hey, that’s just science right?
In his last reference to my blog, and me personally might I add, Kevin the Chimp insinuated that I didn’t know that King Barry I hasn’t assumed the power of the Presidency yet. On the contrary Mr Chimp, it is Barry that hasn’t learned that just because he was elected on November 4, 2008 that he doesn’t begin his “rule” until January 20, 2009 at 12 noon.
What I did find at Science Blogs was a prideful announcement about the site’s stats. The site hosts 73 “blogs”, has over 86,000 posts, and 1,161,000+ comments from “yes men” who, like the authors of the pages couldn’t find a coherent thought even if they hired a guide to point them out. But no science.

Nope, no science at all! And sure, Gribbit is so “not even annoyed” that he’s constantly trying to ban me and others from reading his site. In addition, he fails to provide specific examples of “distortions and conjecture” I’ve employed in my criticism of him, so I hope he details these as well; as things stand now, all Gribbit has done is call me an uppity liberal without saying why he thinks this is so. The closest he comes to making a topical claim is asserting that there are holes in the theory of evolution and that it has “missing links”; I invite Gribbit to expand on these–after all, he claims in the latter part of this post (not quoted) that a formal education is essentially a drawback and the lack of one an asset, so I expect that as someone with no post-secondary education Gribbit can and will intelligently defend what he’s written here.

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  1. #1 by Damien on December 16, 2008 - 9:43 pm

    Ok, I really, really have to know where you get your Loony Toons clips.

  2. #2 by llewelly on December 16, 2008 - 11:04 pm

    Did you know the last big chimp war was started by one chimp calling another chimp ‘Gribbit’?

  3. #3 by outeast on December 17, 2008 - 5:34 am

    no shortage of “blogs” which cherry pick Conservative sites and attempt to label the writer as a loon by using distortions and conjecture
    He’s got you there. Just look at how you cherry-picked those 4 paragraphs – in their proper context, they probably seemed far less loony.

  4. #4 by PJ Kirsch on December 17, 2008 - 7:04 am

    OMG if ANYONE is a “wingnut”, it’s YOU!

  5. #5 by hopper3011 on December 17, 2008 - 7:48 am

    “like the authors of the pages couldn’t find a coherent thought even if they hired a guide to point them out.”
    Did anyone else find this hard to scan – obviously agreement of plurals is not a big thing in Mr. Gribbit’s world?
    Either;
    “like the authors of the pages couldn’t find [a] coherent thought[s] even if they hired a guide to point them out.”
    Or;
    “like the authors of the pages couldn’t find a coherent thought even if they hired a guide to point [them] [it] out.”
    Please.

  6. #6 by Kevin Beck on December 17, 2008 - 8:12 am

    Gribbit is also caught up in all sorts of projection:
    “Meaty (meaning meatbrain of thinkingmeat.net) does what he does in an attempt to drive up his traffic. It is a common tactic of smaller sites.”
    Gribbit is obsessed with his hit counter (which ticks along at a thriving rate of three hits an hour or so). He equates a blog’s hits with the validity of opinions–unless, of course, the blog is a well-trafficked one belonging to someone else.
    Gribbit claims not to be bothered by what I write about him, yet has tried to ban me from even viewing his site. He is as transparently dishonest about his emotional investment in the perception of his blog as as he is bereft of facts when posting to it.
    There was more to this, but I’m presenting it in a follow-up post instead.

  7. #7 by JimFiore on December 17, 2008 - 9:37 am

    In all honesty Kev, I don’t understand why you bother with Gribbit. Is it some kind of OCD thing? I mean, it’s sort of like making fun of the kids on the short bus. Of course, he’s not actually on the short bus, so why don’t you just say that he’s so dumb that he couldn’t find his butt with both hands tied behind his back and move on to more useful critiques, queries, and commentary?

  8. #8 by Kevin Beck on December 17, 2008 - 9:48 am

    It’s not so much the inanity of what he writes as the fact that I know he will never defend his ideas with credible sources or even by expanding on them in his own words. For some reason I feel compelled to highlight the fact that wingnuts like him (and meatbrain has a blog devoted almost entirely to maligning Gribbit types) are universally opposed to having basic conversations with people they disagree with and never say anything substantive in criticizing them; they disallow dissenting comments and simply rant about the alleged stupidity of the other side without providing any details.
    Of course, having pointed this out about 100 times, it’s probably time to stop, no matter how much warped pleasure I derive from mocking easy targets. I admit that I just can’t help but laugh at that bulldog with the Risky Business shades every time I see it.
    Anyway, point taken.

  9. #9 by Kevin Beck on December 17, 2008 - 9:48 am

    It’s not so much the inanity of what he writes as the fact that I know he will never defend his ideas with credible sources or even by expanding on them in his own words. For some reason I feel compelled to highlight the fact that wingnuts like him (and meatbrain has a blog devoted almost entirely to maligning Gribbit types) are universally opposed to having basic conversations with people they disagree with and never say anything substantive in criticizing them; they disallow dissenting comments and simply rant about the alleged stupidity of the other side without providing any details.
    Of course, having pointed this out about 100 times, it’s probably time to stop, no matter how much warped pleasure I derive from mocking easy targets. I admit that I just can’t help but laugh at that bulldog with the Risky Business shades every time I see it.
    Anyway, point taken.

  10. #10 by Rev. BigDumbChimp on December 17, 2008 - 12:44 pm

    One of those evolution is settled science types who can’t remember that it is only a theory.

    0 to fail in one short paragraph.

  11. #11 by Rev. BigDumbChimp on December 17, 2008 - 12:47 pm

    In all honesty Kev, I don’t understand why you bother with Gribbit. Is it some kind of OCD thing? I mean, it’s sort of like making fun of the kids on the short bus. Of course, he’s not actually on the short bus, so why don’t you just say that he’s so dumb that he couldn’t find his butt with both hands tied behind his back and move on to more useful critiques, queries, and commentary?

    I for one find it highly entertaining. Yes it’s good to have it as but a part of the commentary here, but it is a part I enjoy.
    But I’m kind of an asshole, or at least that’s what my wife tells me.

  12. #12 by Kevin Beck on December 17, 2008 - 12:59 pm

    Also, when you look at Gribbit’s page, Big Fat Blog, the Discovery Institute’s complaints site, and others, the content may wildly differ among them, but they share one thing in common: A categorical blockade of outside input. Gribbit and BFB allow only assenting comments, and the DI’s blog isn’t open to commments at all. The people behind each of these will offer bullshit excuses as to why this is so, but in the end it quite obviously boils down to all of them knowing that they cannot defend their ideas against basic, reasoned arguments.
    Gribbit is smart enough to know he’s a moron, the BFBers can maintain their ideas only if allowed to rage in a bubble, and the DI’s blog (vital to its PR and hence its ability ot attract donations) would quickly collapse if its targets were permitted to rebut its lies directly. While I’m sure that it’s tiresome to deal with scads of senseless and profane comments, as highly popular bloggers like PZ Myers have to do, I never take a blog disallowing comments seriously, because I know not only that the ideas it offers are bound to be crippled, but that the proprietor knows it, too.

  13. #13 by JimFiore on December 17, 2008 - 2:20 pm

    Rev,
    Yes, it’s a good chuckle from time to time but I find it a little like watching nothing but Three Stooges movies. I can take the “Moe eye poke” only so many times before I’m full.

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