“Pro-Life” [sic] embarrassment Gingi Edmonds gives audio interview to fellow harpy

If you Google the name “Gingi Edmonds,” you discover a person who was unknown a week ago but has moved a few rungs up the anonymity ladder to “mostly obscure,” carving out an honorable identity as a thoroughgoing wreck of a person: equal parts self-aggrandizing, clueless, hateful. angry, and intentionally extremist. With the boundless wisdom of a 23-year-old with a mind in terminal, long-standing lockdown, she’s eager to assure visitors to her Web site that she is”currently available for pro-life presentations and speaking engagements.” I just saw the ten-year-old a few houses down chasing his younger brother up the street; he has good form, so maybe I’ll ask if he wants to speak at the next dinner hosted my running club, the Central Mass Striders.
Some of you may have already heard of Gingi through PZ Myers. She’s the one who wrote an “article” for ChristianNewsWire.com implying that Irving Feldkamp, who lost nine immediate and extended family members in the crash that killed 14, more or less had it coming. Feldkamp is also the owner of Family Planning Associates, chain clinics that includes abortions among its services.
Last night, Gingi gave an Internet radio interview expanding on her wisdom regarding the crash and the Feldkamps. The host of the “show,” Andrea Shea King, is a brazen moron in her own right, maintaining a blog called “The Radio Patriot” (where she refers to Gingi as “a lovely young lady”) and standing as something of a rarity in that she appears to be in her seventies, but is an active right-wing Internet twitterhead. She boasts of her regular column in WorldNut Daily, and her inclusion of “what the media isn’t telling you” in her introduction to dingy Gingi is now in the pantheon of words and phrases in this thread, the longest in Chimp Refuge history. In this case, both Gingi and Shea King marvel over the fact that Feldkamp’s status as an owner and operator of family planning clinics was not mentioned in media stories about the plane crash. Leaving aside that filing this stort apace was far more important in the immediate aftermath than investigating the backgrounds of every passenger, people like Shea King and Gingi are evidently unaware that some human beings, even journalists, are infused with a conscience.
Gingi notes in the crapcast that her e-mail is presently not working because of spam” (she’s gotten lots of e-mail as a result of PZ’s post; I’m not sure this is what she means). Amazingly, she claims to be “much more funny” in writing than on the air. She’s not funny at all, except in the sense that she is a curiosity. She sounds normal, pleasant, and well-educated in tone and word choice, which makes the nature of the sewage stream coming out of her mouth and keyboard that much more abominable.
I have to wonder what watershed event turned her into a “pro-life activist” at age 16; I have to think that people don’t come to say, think, and write the thinks Gingis do following a period of study and contemplation. Like most rabid abortion opponents, she’s pissed about something, but doesn’t say what on her Web site. Her bio allows that she once “worked as a full time staff member with Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust,” but I have no clue what that even means. I and everyone reading this are also survivors of the same “Holocaust,” I guess (and co-opting that word is another sure sign of human swinehood).

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  1. #1 by Doug Alder on March 27, 2009 - 10:24 pm

    Gingi Edmonds makes Sarah Palin look smart. They’ll be the 2012 GOP ticket (oh please ;) )

  2. #2 by Cuttlefish on March 27, 2009 - 11:31 pm

    Hey, somebody (2, actually) visited my blog by searching for ‘Gingi Edmonds’, so it can’t be all bad.
    After all, in the dictionary, she’s right next to ‘gingivitis’. Perhaps the incessant taunts of her school chums caused it all. That, or her inhuman stupidity.

  3. #3 by Tommykey on March 28, 2009 - 12:51 am

    If my understanding is correct, and it is really pathetic if it is, Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust are all of the people born in the United States after Roe v. Wade.

  4. #4 by Mickey on March 28, 2009 - 7:22 am

    I gave up reading this. You obviously are a second grader with all of the name calling and not worth a full read. I will comment on this though……
    “people like Shea King and Gingi are evidently unaware that some human beings, even journalists, are infused with a conscience.”
    Hmmmmmmmm I`m glad someone has a conscience unlike Feldkamp and co. who have no conscience shredding the unborn out of the womb. lol

  5. #5 by Monimonika on March 28, 2009 - 8:55 am

    You know, for people who are supposedly pro-life (thus supposedly horrified by abortion), Mickey and similar ilk (including Gingi) sure like to “lol” after mentioning the “deaths of the unborn”.
    …lol
    (I couldn’t help myself with that last bit.)

  6. #6 by Tommykey on March 28, 2009 - 1:13 pm

    I wonder how all of these male so-called “pro-lifers” would react it one morning they woke up and found a cyst on their abdomen, and when they went to their doctor, were informed that the cyst in fact contained a fertilized egg that in 9 months would grow to be a fully formed baby. But during those 9 months, these men would be subject to morning sickness, mood swings, and the burden of having to carry the fetus as it grew larger and had increasing nutritional requirements.
    Would these heroic Christian men actually go through and carry the pregnancy to term or would they have it removed as soon as possible, because, well you know, men aren’t supposed to have babies? We can even up the ante. You are told that the fetus has birth defects, will be born blind and partially paralyzed, and is not likely to live past the age of 5. Do you still go through with it?
    Alternatively, for a “pro-life” woman, let’s pretend that every 18 months or so I was able to impregnate you in your sleep without your knowledge and consent, and I do this from the age you are 15 to the age you are 40. Are you going to carry every pregnancy to term? Let’s say I do it not only to you, but to every “pro-life” woman in your town.
    It absolutely astonishes me that for so many people in this country, the first thing they think about when they wake up in the morning is that every fertilized egg in America result in a birth.

  7. #7 by Tommykey on March 28, 2009 - 1:13 pm

    I wonder how all of these male so-called “pro-lifers” would react it one morning they woke up and found a cyst on their abdomen, and when they went to their doctor, were informed that the cyst in fact contained a fertilized egg that in 9 months would grow to be a fully formed baby. But during those 9 months, these men would be subject to morning sickness, mood swings, and the burden of having to carry the fetus as it grew larger and had increasing nutritional requirements.
    Would these heroic Christian men actually go through and carry the pregnancy to term or would they have it removed as soon as possible, because, well you know, men aren’t supposed to have babies? We can even up the ante. You are told that the fetus has birth defects, will be born blind and partially paralyzed, and is not likely to live past the age of 5. Do you still go through with it?
    Alternatively, for a “pro-life” woman, let’s pretend that every 18 months or so I was able to impregnate you in your sleep without your knowledge and consent, and I do this from the age you are 15 to the age you are 40. Are you going to carry every pregnancy to term? Let’s say I do it not only to you, but to every “pro-life” woman in your town.
    It absolutely astonishes me that for so many people in this country, the first thing they think about when they wake up in the morning is that every fertilized egg in America result in a birth.

  8. #8 by So Sad on March 28, 2009 - 2:07 pm

    I feel so sad for you lot. You attack a girl who points out the obvious (mainstream media omits major ‘fact’ in their reporting), and allow this multi-millionaire a ‘free ride’. I’m sorry for his loss, but in the world of science and ‘humanistic’ thought, you have to admit that all actions create ‘reactions’.
    And Tommykey, what the heck are you talking about? Sad little people.

  9. #9 by Kevin Beck on March 28, 2009 - 2:19 pm

    I’d bet a million dollars that “So Sad” is Gingi’s mother. Call it a powerful hunch. This, plus the fact that “So Sad” is undoubtedly a religiously intoxicated sort herself, is why she so easily omits the fact of Gingi’s most damning comment (“I don’t want to turn this tragic event into some creepy spiritual ‘I told you so’ moment”) in favor of a red herring (Irving Feldkamp’s ownership of clinics offering abortion).
    Besides, even were Gingi not a malignant twit, how is what Irving Feldman does with his life any way central or even relevant to the story of the crash? In order to believe that it is, you have to be demented yourself.
    It must not be much fun to find yourself trolling the Internet looking for the many rightful and harsh criticisms of your own daughter on account of her being an unrestrained font of bloodlust and stupidity. Her reputation is never going to recover from this, you know–she’s done a remarkably efficient job of reinforcing the stereotype of abortion opponents as mindless, soulless hypocrites. Gingi’s simultaneous contempt for extant human life and her rabid anti-abortion stance cannot be reconciled in terms of any genuine respect for humanity. She’s obviously a bitter cynic who has chosen to channel her energies into something she knows is controversial. Some people feed on pain and hate the way maggots devour dead flesh. Don’t ask me why, but it happens.
    Congratulations on a parenting job well done–I’m sure Gingi is the asshole of her mother’s eye.

  10. #10 by Spirula on March 28, 2009 - 5:38 pm

    I’m sorry for his loss
    No, you’re not.
    Reactions? As in, “god kills this man’s grandchildren to make a point”?
    No surprise there.
    As this and this (this can go on)demonstrate the moral vacuity of the religious fundamentalist’s god.
    No, you’re not sorry. This is a morbid exploitation of the loss of someone’s family to advance an ideology/religion. And you’re right there in the cheering squad.
    You people are some of the most pathological and morally bankrupt individuals on the planet.
    “God kills kids to show that killing is bad.” That’s all you have.

  11. #11 by Lindsey K. on March 28, 2009 - 11:51 pm

    Whoever “So Sad” is, I can only hope (for her sake of course) that’s she’s in no way related to that psychotic freak show known as Gingi Edmonds. Sacramento Police Department Case Number 2009-1800589. Screw the “Student of the Month” bumper sticker-Gingi’s going for “Inmate of the Year”.
    The whole Edmonds clan must be so proud of their moronic little stalker.

  12. #12 by Discombobulated on March 29, 2009 - 12:19 am

    If So Sad@#7 is indeed Gingi’s mom, I’d like to highlight this choice example of her idea of Christian love:

    Trust me, Gingi is not revelling in anything. She is sickened by this. She’d seen these people, face to face, she’d prayed for them. They were strangers, but not. She spoke to one of Dr. Feldkamp’s friends, and was able to express her heartfelt condolences. He was of course very distraught, but even he was unaware of his friend’s business dealings.

    Gingi expressed her love to a grieving friend of Dr. Feldkamp’s family by calling him a baby-killer.
    If there really is such a thing as “evil”, it’s in Gingi’s black heart.

  13. #13 by Kevin Beck on March 29, 2009 - 12:31 am

    I listened to that Internet shitcast in the hope that Gingi, despite being interviewed by a fellow harpy who was only bound to egg her on, would scale back her remarks and at least feign an apology toward Irving Feldkamp and the other surviving members of that shattered family. Instead, she emphasized that she was even funnier in print than on the air and reiterated exactly what she’d written on her site.
    I also don’t want to hear that Gingi is some wild-eyed exception to the rule. Most Christians I know might be appalled at a gut level by her ramblings, but at some level they believe her because the idea of divine retribution is ground into them and is surely all but impossible to shake until those with luck and prodding manage to throw the entire enterprise out of their heads. And Christian News Wire, which bills itself as the world’s largest distributor of faith-based literature or something like that, published the story, so it couldn’t have been antithetical to at least one self-appointed spokesmonster’s idea of mainstream Christian principles.
    If people don’t want nasty fucks like CNW and Gingi Edmonds speaking for them, then they should either say so or jump ship. It’s an institution for the delirious and the deceived, with “hope” by now a joke of a lost cause in the whole scheme. It’s just one more way to be a fuckhead.

  14. #14 by Columbo on March 29, 2009 - 1:19 am

    Kevin Beck I’m curious.
    I’m in a dicussion on another raving forum about this same topic.
    What I’m curious about is your inconsistency on matters like this. I remember when Abbie Smith (ERV) made a comment about the passing of Jerry Falwell. A topic that was touched on over here too.
    Abbie, who has a page with scienceblogs, had this to say with the passing of Falwell:
    “Falwell is an ass. His family is a bunch of little assholes. Im glad Falwells dead, and I wish he took his poor little family with him.”
    This was before she was even invited to post at scienceblogs…. back when she just had her regular ERV blog.
    Where was your disgust and outrage then?
    You certainly were familiar with her. You even posted over at her blog:
    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34913414&postID=6407865703950780463
    Pretty selective with your disgust and outrage. Pretty……….. hypocritical.

  15. #15 by Kevin Beck on March 29, 2009 - 1:37 am

    Actually, Columbo, I wasn’t aware of what Abbie said about Jerry Falwell, God rest his fat ass. The fact that I was familiar with her blog obviously does not, or at least should not, imply that I followed every one of her posts.
    That said, Jerry Falwell was an established piece of shit, and I was no more sorry to see him go than I was D. James “Darwin-bred-Hitler” Kennedy, also a shit-chunk. These two, along with the still-living James Dobson, made literal careers out of lying, twisting minds, fomenting hate, and spreading bigotry. Now, I don’t root for even scumbags to die, and I don’t bring their families into it (interesting note: I have a first cousin who is married to a Falwell), but I don’t pretend to miss these people when they’re gone.
    So in summary, you are asking me where my outrage was over something I was not aware existed, which is obviously pointless. Pretending that Gingi’s comments about the Feldman family and Abbie’s mini-rant about Falwell are at all the same is a ridiculous burst of equivocation–Falwell was technically human, but was also a highly public figure who put his bullshit out there for all to see and invited every bit of abuse he received, whereas Feldman is merely a businessman–but that’s another matter.
    I hope I’ve answered your questions.
    P.S. I think you ought to change your handle to Barney Fife or maybe even Frank Drebin.

  16. #16 by Columbo on March 29, 2009 - 1:44 am

    “These two, along with the still-living James Dobson, made literal careers out of lying, twisting minds, fomenting hate, and spreading bigotry.”
    Oh hell yeah, Kevin.
    I can tell it just disgusts you…. all of that fomenting hate and spreading bigotry. Funny though, you seem quite well versed in it yourself.
    Also,
    I don’t buy that you weren’t familiar with the comment. It was quoted enough times and it was a topic that was covered on your blog. You’re a hypocrite. The post I’m responding to is evidence enough. The fact about Abbie’s comment is just window dressing.

  17. #17 by Kevin Beck on March 29, 2009 - 1:52 am

    Columbo, I told you I didn’t know what Abbie had written, and that’s a fact. How deluded do you have to be to assume–no, insist–that I was following every post on ERV at the time? I barely look at it even now.
    Besides, I have no reason to lie about this because even had I known, I wouldn’t have condemned Abbie for what she said. Falwell was a fucking asshole. Do you want me to say it again? Falwell sucked. If my saying that makes me hateful or a bigot in your eyes, I’m not going to lose sleep over it. And if you think I’m a hypocrite for ripping Gingi while failing to condemn someone for lambasting a talking turd like Falwell, I’m not going to blink at that either.
    I know this post would draw an aliquot of righteous assholes out of the Internet woodwork, and you happen to be one of them. Yay for you, you got your “evidence” I’m not objective. Go tell it to your preacher.

  18. #18 by ema on March 30, 2009 - 12:29 am

    I totally join So Sad in her condemnation of the MSM! It’s obvious the MSM “omitted” the “fact” “that” one of the plane crash victims was 20 wks pregnant in order to allow Gingi Edmonds’ particular god a “free ride”.
    I, too, am sorry for the loss, but in the world of science and ‘humanistic” ‘thought”, you have to admit that the action of getting pregnant and wanting to carry the pregnancy to term creates the reaction of Gingi Edmonds’ god forcibly terminating your pregnancy.

  19. #19 by Zak on March 31, 2009 - 1:13 pm

    All you leftwingers, liberals, atheists, self-absorbed “elitists” and all abortion supporters and providers are wastes of flesh.
    I say, screw the polite words and careful rhetoric. It’s time for us to break out the steel-toed boots and brass knuckles, and get out there and hammer on the lunatics and idiots.

  20. #20 by Kevin Beck on March 31, 2009 - 1:22 pm

    Zak, you’re a little behind the times. Religious nuts, abortion opponents, and creationist hacks have never been known for “polite words” or “careful rhetoric.” Were you not a moron, you would understand that this is exactly what my post was about.
    Your hard-on for PZ is both entertaining and a little alarming; mostly it’s pathetic. And although I don’t care if you cavort around this blog like an asshole, if you use PZ’s work e-mail address one more time here, I’ll let your ISP in British Columbia know: abuse@telus.com.

  21. #21 by a on March 31, 2009 - 7:50 pm

    “Gingi notes in the crapcast that her e-mail is presently not working because of spam”
    Getting sent piles of pornography sign up spam bombarded to your account will do that to you. Enjoy, bitch.

  22. #22 by a on March 31, 2009 - 7:50 pm

    “Gingi notes in the crapcast that her e-mail is presently not working because of spam”
    Getting sent piles of pornography sign up spam bombarded to your account will do that to you. Enjoy, bitch.

  23. #23 by Nic Samojluk, Ph.D. on April 8, 2009 - 3:49 pm

    If Gingi had written about animal rights she would probably be praised up to high heaven. Her mistake was to write on behalf of human unborn babies. If you mistreat a pet you might en up in jail, but if you dismember an unborn baby you are protected by the full force of the police force.

  24. #24 by Jim Fiore on April 8, 2009 - 5:49 pm

    Ah yes, the “unborn baby”. You see your mistake here is that babies are animals that have been born, so there’s no such thing as an “unborn baby”, although it does sound very emotionally compelling which is, I’m sure, the effect you’re after, rather than shedding light on the subject.
    Now, if you want to claim the right to call a fertilized egg an “unborn baby”, then I claim the equivalent right to sell you a pile of iron ore as an “un-manufactured car”.

  25. #25 by Tommykey on April 9, 2009 - 7:19 pm

    If you mistreat a pet you might en up in jail
    And if you mistreat a baby that has been born, you also end up in jail.
    A pregnant woman’s uterus is not a public commons and you do not get the right to decide for her whether or not she has to carry a pregnancy to term and assume the tremendous burdens of being a parent, which I know personally as the father of two children.
    Go find something more worthwhile in which to devote your time.

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